First gay ‘marriage’ in Pakistan
Surely, this is one of the reasons for the Earthquake
A gay couple have become the first to get “married” in Pakistan, according to reports from the region. Witnesses said a 42-year-old Afghan refugee held a marriage ceremony with a local tribesman of 16 in the remote Khyber region bordering Afghanistan.
On hearing of the wedding, a tribal council told the pair to leave the area or be killed for breaking religious and tribal “values and ethics”.
A local Urdu-language newspaper said the elder man, named as Liaquat Ali, had taken a local boy called Markeen as “his male bride”.
The paper said the boy’s impoverished parents accepted 40,000 rupees (£380) for their son’s hand in marriage.
“The marriage was held amid usual pomp and show associated with a tribal wedding,” it said.
Malik Waris Khan, a prominent local politician and former federal minister, confirmed to AFP that the marriage had taken place.
“I checked the report with people in
Although it remains a taboo subject, homosexuality is relatively common in Pakistan, says the BBC’s correspondent Aamer Ahmed Khan in Islamabad.
Increasingly, gay couples are living together in some of the big cities such as Karachi and Islamabad, but gay marriages remain unheard of, he says.
Pakistani law punishes sodomy with imprisonment ranging from two years to life.
Some Islamic provisions prescribe 100 lashes for the act or even death by stoning.
A gay couple caught having sex were lashed publicly in the Khyber region in May.
Source: BBC
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I cant say I am shocked by this article about such immorality. With the state thjat the society is heading then what are we to expect. Dishonestt, Corruption and most of all Lack of Islamic Principles within our homes and our daily lifestyles. The world and its people are drawing nearer and nearer Qayamat, surly this is a sign as was the sign of of Hazrat Lut, Alayhissalams people were also destroyed for sodomy and if we look around now we can see History repeating itself. I am so disgusted with this story and If i had the means I would personally take a gun and go and shoot the both men involved in this case and also the people that looked on and didnt say anything. How weak is their faith. All I can say is that isnt there any Pukhtoon man out there man enough to go and shoot these gay men?
Thankyou,
A concerned Pukhtoon muslim Sister.
i read this post on a forum
On The NEWS web editions, this controversial marriage was REPORTED on 06-10-2005.
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/oct2005-daily/06-10-2005/metro/p2.htm
And DENIED on 07-10-2005
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/oct2005-daily/07-10-2005/metro/p16.htm
Very disturbed to read this. Already had a slight headache today, but after reading this, have a severe headache now. Astaghfaar. If true, these two clowns, worst than donkeys, should be given the worst possible punishment, maybe sticking a burning Iron rod somewhere.
A Food for Thought: Perhaps, the agony, pain and concern to the disaster lost its meaning. A warning and wake up call by ALLAH all mighty. The response and commitment by the Nation is remarkable. In my opinion, it has linkage with War on Terror. Islam is complete code of life and it’s not discretionary, either you are Muslim or you are not. The development of commitment by the Nation must be viewed in the backdrop of preparation for ‘Gazwa-Tul-Hind’. All the people died are un-doubtly ‘Shaheed’, having admitted that the responsibility lies with all of us. Lot of literature is available on the subject. I request the readers to go through it and frame correct view of the situation.
both will be strictly punished according to Islamic Law. otherwise it will become a fashion and youth will start adopting. it is a very serious matter and should be addressed.
i think its disgusting.they should not have the right to do this.it is against the law and against our religion.they should be punished for doing this horrible deed.
eeerrr….they really do sux isn’t dat….i think they a discusting….this bloody think is not in islam…how they do that?…itz too much…huh..mera bas chaley tu main he mardoon…donkeys and monkeys are better then tham…huh i still can’t believe…how the are they….they gave thier 16 year old boy to the bastard scoundrel fool person. they both punnished hard for dat bloody stuff…huh
This is the most stupid and disgusting news i ever heard. May be this news is wrong and has purpose to make a bad image of Pakistan on other countries especially in muslim world. o ALLAH! may this news is wrong but if not then the subjects of this horrible news should be punished. If i have authority then i`ll sentence them death.
well…..i think this is disgusting.those two should not be murdered rather they should be punished in such a way that no one ever even try to think of such an act.
it is sad to hear that we are now totally trying to follow the western culture.But we muslims have the problem that we are trying to opt the culture which is not good in west as well instead we have to follow the development which they did in science and technology.I think the government of paksitan should take step and stop this gay marriage right now otherwise it’s fear that it will be in our culture
salam to all muslim brother and sisters this is incredible isnt it very strange while hearing tht in an islamic country achieved by name of allmighty allah we have such brutal acts by ppls just like the gay merraige ….it is so disgusting for us to just think about it how can it be possible??i think neither they r human nor a muslim because in the boundry of islam some one cant even think about such acts. we r observing the drawbacks of this merraige in the form of suffering of miserable victims of earthquake.May Allah bless us siraath-e-mustaqeem ameen sum ameen
why is everyone actign so suprised… when such acts are so common.. in our so called muslim world… what if the peopel concerned are born this way… this si a social issue that should not be seen from a rigid relegious standpoint… if relegion causes society to isolate people who are “abnormal”, to simply label in such a way as taboo.. and yet its so pervasive in our society…then relegion is surly not enough to understand the issue…
and wahts more disgusting is the self rigteous crap written above…
all are equal in the eyes of god.. may allah rest teh earthquake vicitms souls in peace. amen
Both should be punished according to SHAREEAT. But if someone ask me for here punishment my opinion is to kill them 100 times, and then burn their dead bodies. So that in future no one can even think about such a pig-like thinking.
Well as according to islamic and other religious belief’s the homosexuality is indeed a bad thing even in many other religions like christanity…..but this sight of world seems to have changed since few decades …..people have become more homosexual and getting into those acts like marriages and living together as a homosexual couple …this thing has become common in both women and men they choose same sex partners…..as far as i know about pakistan im here since i left U.S.A and started living here that was 1978 and now its been alot changed i dont feel so different than a pakistani resident….as far as my knowledge is gay couple’s are not something very new here we’ve always had some in tribal areas but now its been more expressive people are living as gay and lesbians in cities of Karachi,Islamabad,Lahore and various others part like Peshawar..May be that wasnt the only cause of Earthquake but why we see it when they got married …..didnt they thought about being gay just before marriage..sure they did what about 100 and thousands of couples still in other cities but who knows they are married or not?..Is this perfect to claim it a cause of this disaster? i dont know but whatever it is people have different ways of thinking.
People are relating this sin to the Earthquake, which is not fair. The sin of few individuals can’t bring so much destruction for innocent people, please stop thinking like that.
Wish and Pray for the dead, and work for resettlement of the alived please
these are only the rumors.i cant belive in it,if it is true then broad cast on media.why a man marry a man.all animals,birds,human beings,sealife have pairs a male and female.then why some one need to marry a same sex.this is only the habbit of animals.
I must say I am so shocked people’s response in here while is nothing short of short mindedness. First of all I must add that I am aware the homosexuality is not supported by any of the Holy religion including Islam, Christianity and Jewish religion and being a believer I can see all of your point of view.
But what I am surprised to see is that how quickly some of you can you oh if I will have a gun I will go shoot those people yourself, if we read Islamic history everyone had a just hearing with open mind and hearts. Your guys in your smartness think that violance is the solution to every taboo, we have statistically proved that trying to teach absitenance in sex has caused more Aids than anything which is one example of many that closing your eyes and ears and SHOOTING people is not a solution to anything. Next time you are looking at your children, your friend imagine holding a gun to their head for stealing, for lieing for smoking and then honestly say that you can!
Stop being judgemental and harsh! and for Mubashar there are tons of animals which practice homosexuality one of many examples are beetles, sheep, fruit bats, dolphins, and orangutans and penguins.
and a reverse question to all those people who are so quick to start burning people 100 times when you burn your wives over dowry and when you marry four wives when you don’t have to and people say the same thing about you on basis of humanity why is that we are so quick to say oh they don’t understand! Our religion above all is about compassion and forgiveness not about blatant murder.
And in the end as far as Hazrat Lut is concerned if you have read it in detials and other scriptures which I do hope that all the people who tend to ride the high horse of religion and might, the people were destroyed not only becuase they were bisexual because they used to kill each other including babies for joy and they were near savages thats why there were stoned to death. If God was to stone people to death for one or two sins we wouldn’t be standing here, killing ppl will just make a bad prescedent for us and make people do the same thing in hiding and then what will we do? Stop males for assoiating from males and females from associating from females, deal with matter at hand with brian cells that God has given you for a reason and wake up! We are humans at least when I wake up in the morning with the promise of future I like to think that I am proud of being a “human”…
I know my response will stir up controversary, but people with minoraties will always get abused such is the nature of these things.
I hear this news with my friends who belong to bannu. and then we report this news to a friends who belong to khabir(Waziristan). At first he is not belevimg but when many friends press him, he openly accept it. It is very very bad news even in that region where Islamic laws are implemented ( FATA is 80% under Islamic law). May Allah Show them the right path and save us from such disaster as many nation that were destroyed explain in quran give us message of “to return back to ALLAH”.
Salaam all..Although most of us (if not all) are in agreeance that this gay marriage should not have taken place but I do not agree with everyone saying they should be killed. Yes, it is wrong in Islam. We all know this, but it is for Allah to cast his wrath on those he deems worthy NOT ours. Don’t get wrong, I am by no means condoing this, but I am always disgusted by the hypocrasy of Pakistani culture! No one talks with such vigor about other UNISLAMIC practices of premarital sex (regardless of your sexual orientation..it does NOT make it acceptable for MEN to have sex either, but our culture it has become acceptable??!), DRINKING alcoholic beverages (I know MANY MANY so called muslims doing this!), and KILLING! These are ALSO contributing factors to the degradation of societies morals not to mention haraam!
There are and always have been homosexuals in every culture and faith (this is only deemed newsworthy since they attempted to marry, but we all know there are tons of gay pakistanis..some I’m sure you know personally). I am tired of our culture picking and choosing when they want to be Muslims in some instances but not in others! I agree with Tasneem’s post.
My brother give the comments about the punishment so leniently. dear if u are talking about history of islam, it is really almost free from curruption, and the main reason if we think on reality-base,not according to our minds, so it would be clear as sun-shine fact that whenever someone given punishment for what he did, that punishment become an example for others who were thinking about that sin. So system of punishment in islam is not to digrace humanity but to save the society from forthcoming bad deeds.
And in the end i would like to share afruit full story;
In Hazrat Umer’s (RA) khilafat one man was caught at spot while stealing, he said plz forgive me once i will never do that again, Hazrat Umer RA said Allah never open the bad deed of a man to others 1st time. and when searched it was really a truth that he already donethat mistake earliear.
So plz dont challange the punishments of islam according to ur minds, No one is more mercifull than Allah to his creation,so if SHAREEAT(order of Allah) tell some punishment so plz dont challange it.
plz dont mind if anyone dont aggree with my opinion.
The shariah should be in place imediately. Our society is even corrupt then the westeners. Its not Bush or anyone else who we have to defeat or fight first we need to become true Muslims ourselves. Hope Allah helps all of us…
The idea of allowing people to do whatever they want and leaving God the judge only helps to corrupt the rest of society. When people start feeling that they as individuals have no responsibility to the broader social fabric, they will indulge themselves in the worst behaviors possible. This is a fact in America where the once vibrant religious communities here were corrupted by the power of mainstream entertainment, marketing, freddom, and ideas and now religious people themselves often feel oppressed because they are neither able to secure the means to practice their faith or they feel embarrassed to admit they are dedicated to their faith.
Allah forbid such an evil situation to exist in Pakistan.
Parobably, this is not the only reason of this catastroph, but if its true then they should be punished by the government(accoding to the islamic laws)…We don’t have any rights to judg or to annonounce death sentences.
In our islamic history… there were always (soo called) KHALIFA woh decides that someone is in guilty or not,its not a duty of a commen person.
i prayed to GOD bless us and prevent us society from such stupid and idiot and raskal. in my opinion both of these guys must be killed without any delay in front of the whole comunity. because such stupids are really hazardous for our society religion and our moral values.
Oh GOD bless us,
Amen.
it is a fact that when we go to cross teh limits of islam God shows its self as it happened in teh prevoius earthquake and one thing comes in my mind tht people living pakistan? how thy forgets the Normz and rules and teaching of islam and how thy for get: the Biggets reality of life i.e DEATH
Aslam-o-alaikum,
May Allah Show them the right path and save us from such disaster as many nation that were destroyed explain in quran give us message of “to return back to ALLAH”.
I read it all and came to know about it yesterday, first thing that comes in my mind is that, the marriage has taken place but are the people involved in are “MUSLIMS” ir just a news to go around to ruin the Muslim Reputation? Can anyone answer this question?? Second of all, at this time, when our whole country is under some kinda problems, how can we just leave the major issue of the Earth Quake and go around to solve this issue??The thing i would say is that, the people involved and who got married can not be Muslims because, no one can commit such a sin at the time when we are passing through a very sensitive passage of time… Government should go in this thing and set a severe example if the Muslims are involved in it… And if they are Non Muslims, then a more severe example should be created because they have tried to Hurt ISLAM…
Yes again, At this crucial time, get involved in relief of eart quake victims then to create a mess of this issue… May ALLAH forgive us all…
And, they should not be killed, but we should create such an example so that it should be clear to present and coming ages… Thanks
I think the gay people should be punished by public hanging. I also, think that gay marriage is a disgrace to all humans across the glode. I am saddened and sickened to see that a gay couple was married. Further more I am even more infuriated at the fact that people in Islamic countires are naive and foolish enough to believe that an earthquake was the result of a gay marriage. That is the most ridiculous but yet most humerous thing I have ever heard of. This entire theory behind the gay marriage and earthquake strongly proves why the world would turn to hell if citizens of Islamic countries ruled. The United Stated may allow gay marriages, but it does not condone them. In the future, Islamic countries shoudl not plan to get destroyed by a natural disaster but by the most kick ass country in the world, the United States of America.
Assalamu alykum. Brothers and sisters, please stop being so ignorant! First, no one can say for sure that the earthquake is a punishment for an alleged gay marriage in Pakistan.no one really has any complete knowledge of what Allah intended when this disaster took place and to make such a conclusion is ignorant and wrong. Second, the gay marriage story is fabricated story, so it’s an obvious contradiction. What we CAN conclude is this earthquake disaster is among the trials and tribulations brought among our Ummah and we must deal with it (ie, those who live and suffer and how we are going about on relief efforts) and is definitely a reminder of the day of Qayamat, which NO ONE is able to predict exactly when that time will come. Allah knows best…
salam to all brothers n sisters.this news s a rumour.when i heard this news,i was v much shocked.there r some of our friends who belong to that area.they r really good people.
i ve asked them ab this.their answer was that that boy(ab wchich media has written dat he is maried) was pulling donkey carts with some people but they were nt good with them.actually what happened that other afghani man(to whom the media has mention him married)is also da owner of some donkeys n mukes.he asked that boy to come n pull his donkey carts instead of those people as they were cruel to him.
that boy left those people n went with him.after that it was advertised that boy has been married to that afghani refugee….and so on…..
i am sure its not true if it is then it must show in news channels geo must show this its wrong news
I’m really very sorry to hear this stupid bad things that was never been heard . the goverment mut take them panushment if they are muslim . it’s verry sad to us that we are leaving such like this social or peaple . I will say to mu conculsions we have to fight them if we are pure on’s
thanks It’s truble for me to hear such like thin news even I couldn’t type nothing as I beome shock
Gay marriage is one of the part and one of the reason of the Earth Quake in Pakistan…And not only the gay marriage but there are so many reasons.. and so on….
i think it’s sick and it’s oen ofthe signs that the judgement is very near to us now.people should atleast learn after the tsunami and this earthquake and all teh hurricanes that we need to cup on to everything..start praying cuz the day we all are judged isnt far off…scary isnt it?bus abb ibaadat kero…..
Ofcourse our religion is not allowing such marriages, but every one is now that the trend of homosex is developing but not openly. If such cases becames open and the delinquents were not punished, every one in the world just think about the ‘Azab-e-Elahi’ just like the time of Hazrat Lut, Alehissalams. Today night as 27th of Ramzan ul Mubarik we must pray and beg mercy and blessing from or Allah. Khuda ham sab ko mehfooz rakhey.
first i want to t say that iam really confused that how a muslim can do this mostly afghan i cant believe it.my another point is that if it is trye than y we didnt seen it in tv for example geo channel,ary and some other.but i also want to say one thing more that if it is real i wish that GOD give the aged one the hard punishment and put him in the hill for all life
This will usually fake report because some of those area people do the unnatural thing but most don’t do it and this all activity was underground and also thier is strong network of Muslim Scholars who don’t let them do this openly. Also if some one do that so he will punished for that no other or incocent peoples. Allah is great and Allah is marcifull. he don’t give any punishment of one to other and all this thing is to be happend by his will, he is the only who do what he want to do. So guys please don’t creat panic, fake and unwise report untill and less you see by your self. remeber no one is complete or no one don’t make mistake. as we can find people in America who are millions times more great and Deendar then in pakistan. so bad and good is every where, but we have to fallow the good only. leave the bad thing as it is untill it don’t hurt u or some one else. beye
Pardon my impertenance, but wasn’t the earthquake caused by the slippage of two tectonic plates which creates the fresh and jagged peaks of the mountain ranges?
To stir unnecessary fear in a population already grieved with such tremendous loss seems simply cruel and hateful. How does one rescue and rebuild a damaged countryside with such distraction?
it is very horrible news.i see so many gay persons in my city but heard 1st time of gay marriage in Pakistan.
it may be a cause of earthquake because when male do sex with each other,earth get pain.
God forgive all sins but not homosexuality.
may HE give stregnth to victims.
…God Bless Us..
i have no words. i was doing research for my paper and this is my topic and i saw this.
AstukfurAllah
This is totally rediculus and against islamic ethical and moral values. People who are involved in these kinds of deeds should recive punishment under Islamic laws, and people who supports these activities should be ashamed of theirselves and to call them a Muslim. Those who commit this sins should be punish because its not only social but also a religious disgrace.
MAy Allah save us from all sins!
Saying that God is one and Almighty is not to spell only but being a muslim and leading our life in such a state,it is really disgusting to hear this astonishing news that even being a muslim such act takes place and government of Pakistan only smiles.
May God keep help us(Amin).
While its bad and saddening, but we must also think if we- who so vehemently are proposing death punishment – have performed our duties as muslims !! how many of us even think about the duty of “Amar bil maroof” which is equally , or even more, important than “Nahee an el munkar” ?? The world is full of people who know nothing about Allah Subhanutaala and HIS commands and wills. Its our duty to preach and take the message of prophet Muhammad (saw) to these people.
Kaash koi in logoon ko ja kay pyaar say bhee samjhaye k yeh Allah ki narazgee ka kaam hai to shayad Allah in ko hidayat hi day day !!!
And ALLAH knows best
I think we have bigger things to worry about now days. Besides, quite frankly, it’s none of our business. Why is it that we must always comment on other people and what they’re doing. I think there’s nothing wrong with two people who love each other getting married. Get over it; we’re in the 21st century!
assalamualakum,As soon as i heard this news i was so disgusted how can a pakistani do this? how can any muslim do this?If it is true which i am hopeing it is not i think these people should be punished to death for doing this act which is totally against islam.
These are maniac peoples and i think so the reason is tht only for the earth quake to hit tht area .
asalamo alikum . i amazed when i listen this news and i m afraid, that is a reason of EARTHQUAKE in pak,if this news is true than we should say astaghfirullah i think its too bad
WEll. I am very shocked to hear this messege i am very speachless yet so scared that Qyamatee mite be very very near. Please all muslims do good deeds and pray to save your selfs from hell, rest in peace and respect Allah Talla’s powers.
This incident is the result of “enlighten moderation introduced by govt. Of pakistan. Such incidents resulted into the destruction of “quam-e- loot”. Now it has resulted into a destructive earthquake in pakistan. If we would not follow the religious principles i am sure we could not survive.
i dont believe it caused the quake. reason being the tribal elders did take action against it. tribal areas are out of reach of pakistani law enforcement agencies. and also if it was the cause why so much damage in kashmir which is miles away from tribal areas.
here mostly people said it is all because of the sin of those people but any one have thought about the scientific reason??? why we Musliums try to hide our negligence and ignorance in these type of statements(Punishment by Allah) Allah have nothing to do else except punishing musliums??
and those organisation and their followers are trying to spread more confusion about islam and trying to collect more fuel for so called islamic terrorism.
I’ve read about this in a forum http://www.cssforum.com.pk/showthread.php?t=1172 . Why the hell we should look for scientific reasons when this is very clearly mentioned in the quran? here is the islamic perspective on earthquakes http://www.cssforum.com.pk/showthread.php?t=1167
ppl believ that just coz we are in the 21st century and livin unda western influences, homoseuality should now b accepted wid open arms! sinc when!? y r muslims lettin these disgustin westerners try and make us change our beliefs, sell our morals and sink low lyk them accept incest, fornication, adultery, homoz, tranz etc into our ways, and l;abel it all a norm. homo- in humans is against human nature. get that into ur thick skulls. for us humans, god created the opposite gender, who u hav to marry first. yes animals do hav homo- widin dem, but hey, gues wot, if u r capable of redin this right now, we, are n-o-t animals. understand. The people of Lot WER punished for their homo- acts. they wer lykend to monkys. why? coz monkeys r homoz.believ u me, people oof Lot were punishd coz dey wer homoz, accept it, not for ne oda reasonz lyk i hav red, those oda resons are fabricated. homoz shud b killd. muslims stand firm to your religion, homoz shud b killd. dnt let these westerners blindfold u wid there so-calld ‘freemindedness’ nd trick u into believin that all equal, all those that behave lyk humans r equal, if u act lyk a bloody monkey o a pig, den u dnt fall into the category o human. when ppl do wrong, the punishment comes widespread, u will b questiond, ‘y did u not stop evil, when i had appointed u as my caliphate, to spread my words on earth?’ infact these western ‘freemindedness’ is in reality western ‘stupidity’, i mean luk at ther households, yuk!, need i say mo?
oh well, main point, homo – haram. saza, kill em. proof, religion. people of Lot – punished bcoz they wer homo, stop bludy fabricatin lies.
punishment comes widespread, the innocent will b questiond wot did u do to stop evil if u wer aware of it. if dey wer not aware or wer awarend did ther duty, then how lucky they r, for they will b rewardd for ther sufferin, had they livd a lyf steadfast to the pure, truthfull religion of Islam.
on a final note_ muslims, stop lettin these disgusting filthy, incestuous kuffar infiltrate our mynds, and lets not lose our haya, modesty our morals.
wen will u kuffar admit that ur ways r disgustin? i mean c’mon, u accept homo, incest, adultery, fornication, porn, prostitution nd den wonder y u got paedophiles runnig havoc! get real…tym 2 wek up nd smell the stench of the dead corpses, u’v got tym 2 repent…use it bcz man! duz tym fly. a litle shake and whoah that roof on top o ur head can come crashin down. who u gna turn to den? the fhm mags? the porn channels? the lapdancing clubs? the nextdoor-neighbours/bstm8s wife? repent u mingin kuffar. or ur homo m8s? jst a bit o fun (ur idea of fun, mayb.i’l stick to hide nd seek) now but an eternity’s punishment in the hereafter. “when evil will wreak havoc and sin is no longer seen as sin ne more, await the punishment of red dust storms…u HAV bin warnd. h8 u as a kuffar, but luv u as a muslim…
Earthquakes are caused be tectonic activity within the lithosphere, Earthquakes and active faults in northern Pakistan and adjacent parts of India and Afghanistan are the direct result of the Indian subcontinent moving northward at a rate of about 40 mm/yr and colliding with the eurasian plate, causing thrust faults and movement, this is felt as vibrations on the surface, an earthquake. Human activities have nothing to do with it, I respect your religious beliefs and wish not to offend by this comment but i believe you should be informed why these events occured.
However this is very illegle but we all are responsible for this.Because we all give and show this path to them.We all say only comments ,why we not take action against it and to force the Goverment to do anything against it.
hello im a chinese gurl from Malaysia…since you are talking about gay marriages…I’m afraid…it is also happening in malaysia..it happened just last week…but as a muslim country…malaysia have not accepted them as husband and wife…even if they are transexuals.
I’m currently doing a research on the effects of the Khasmir quake on Pakistan and India relation… could someone from here feel free to give some comments in my site. thetruehutien.bravejournal.com
thank you!! so much…if you agree to do so.
all i am going to say is…. that the solution is not shooting people. its about educating. the issue exists all over the world. and if given a choice nobody choose to be gay. so instead of going around shooting people. we need to introduce councelling, islam is a beautiful religion. we need to educate the people. i dont think if anyone actually understood islam would actually scumb to these things. its about resisting. NAFS PAR QABU.
remorse, disgust, violence is not the way to it.
i totally disagree with this stupid news that gay marraiges are the cause of Earthquakes in pakistan…well i have an objection who posted this news..what gay marraige has to do with earthquakes…and for your kind information this disaster struck muzzarbad and balakot and thier adjoining areas i belong to mansehra and i havent seen such idiotic action anywhere around here…, y these people have to lose thier lives for the sins they never had committed…and God would never punish them..if He really want to punish the gays then he would struck e-quake in khi .islamabad and peshawar where they flourish freely if gays actually are the cause of E-quakes in pakistan.dont forget! they all died in holy ramazan…i think they were close to God…and are innocent.we cant say that it was either azab aur an ordeal….they who died were lucky but indeed itz an ordeal for those who left behind…He wanted us to behold and think …and even then we dont repant then it is azab-e-allahe, no one knows what He has setin for us…..so instead of blaming the deads lookupon our characters and acts….well as far as gays are concern …i think they shouldnt get married,if they love each other i appreciate them….it doesnt matter who u love, the thing matters how deep is your love and how pure is it….gay relationship based on satisfaction ..if his mate can satisfy throuh his devine love i dont think itz neccessarily important to have physical relationship..Islams never against love for eachother but it is indeed against the physical relationship so for all this Islam ask us to stay away from these sins…but if you believe in yourself and on ur emotions i think theres nothing wrong in it…..
its disgusting no one is allow to do this horrrible thing.simple death sentence is liter punishment for them
. our gov must take some serious action . thanxx
ya as my friend kurrum say that death sentence is lighter punishment for them i totally agreed. do something to safe our generation future. plzzzzz
It said:
“…the elder man…, had taken a local boy called Markeen as “his male bride”.
…the boy’s impoverished parents accepted 40,000 rupees (£380) for their son’s hand in marriage.”
Isn’t it something like “Human Trafficking” which papers pulicized as gay Marriage???
And Pakistan… It happened somewhere on the border… Somewhere near Afghanistan… some Tribe… NotExactly Pakistan.
We should not generalize a single act on the entire nation.
If you just look around you would find many things which are leading Muslims to a big loss, and commulatively all the aspects are telling us about Qayamah is near..
Do pray to Almighty Allah to forgive you before sun rise which would not set for 2 days and 2 nights and after that no Taubah and Astagfar would be accepted
In The Name Of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful…
Assalam o alikum:-
Well i heard of it before visiting this website and i’ve been told by my friend to pass over a comment for this act,,well what should i say,i have no words for this IF it happened in pakistan,sorry i mentioned the country pakistan because iam very used to with this news,,,day by day this gayish act is spreading but if muslims anywhere whether it is pakistan,afghan or in any other state doing this i’ll just say that ocne in your life please DO open your Holy book,The Holy Quran and it will remind you of the Qaumai Loot and the punishment sent by Allah to his people for this sodomy kind of act.And as far as the quake is concerne,i will never ever say that it was due to this act,but we also are not well informed about the geologic changes of the bio sphere and instead of saying this that it was the disaster strucked due to homosexuality,lets just look into yourself and test your might and your faith.On my behalf…homosexuality is HARAAM in Islam and everyone being a muslim in pakistan should take a serious act for this dirty kinda thing i think one should slaughter gays infront of everyone if he finds one donig this..thanx and ALLAHHAFIZ…
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first of all i thnk its sickening,i mean wich stupid idiots wud let dem get married in da first place????it jus gets 2 shw us dat hw our own muslim people are furthering away frm islam.hpe dey die in hell!!!!
I hope to Allah this is not true, but if we let this couple get married we are accepting that being gay is ok. we cant let this happn only allah is to judge whether we are good muslims or not, we all commit sins. we should ask for forgivness.
killing is not the answer, we shouldnt decide when we can kill allahs creations. allowing gay’s to get married is only a step in the sickning westernised society, the people who accepted money for the 16 yr old to get married should be ashamed of them selves, i pray to allah that nothing of this sort happens again in pakistan.
we all say that pakistan is an islamic country, yet we should see some of the things happening there eg prostitution, fraud , murder we are forgetting who we are we need to be reminded before it gets too late
Lets try this excercise guys and girls, with our limited knowledge in history, islam, science, psychology, lets try this exercise rather than lets say just ignoring, denying, yelling being vengeful.
We know what happens to people who steal some of our good fellows just mentioned it in the post that we cut their hands, I am sure everyone would agree, its Islamic law and everything. I want you guys to honestly cut your hands or childrens or paretns or friends who have ever stolen and again as mentioned earlier by a good gentleman who said that its not up to us to choose or decide the extend of punishment because god forbid if we research or use the brain that god has gifted nay blessed us to use for betterment of his creations, regardless of how big and small the theft was a candy, a diaper, some loose change I want you to cut their hands and then post here of how good muslims you are.
For people who like jotting down inferences; one of our Sahabah once refused to feed a Christian guest and god (Allah) replied back saying taht I have been feeding this man for all of his life and you can’t feed him for one day. So why don’t we first thing that they are the creation of God and have a purpose in this life and for people who missed reading it, absitenance meaning stopping ppl by force without reason doesn’t fix the problem.
and if you are going to start a hate crime where you are just going to hang people who you think are evil, may I remind all of you about Hitler about ethnic cleansing, about Black right movements, about native americans, about seven day war. These are examples of all the things gone wrong.
There was once a time when Islam was spread to the far stretches of West that we have 70 libraries filled iwth Islamic knowledge, history and literature in every city enligthing the minds and souls of people and now we are left to this point where we can’t even find 70 in a country and what little we learnt in our school system about religoin and history is what we are using to dispute and yell and fight.
I don’t admit I know a lot but I try to learn and have a gentle heart becaue in the end Allah knows best, God who is the true creator of me and you knows best and if he wanted those ppl dead that badly he would have smitted them down, given them AIDS it woudln’t be the first time either.
So my advice is be open, thorough, kind, gracious and don’t redden your hearts mind and souls with blood under the pretext of being religious and noble and humble. May God give us the ability to enligthen our minds and enrich our souls and guide us all towards the right path.
i am simply shocked . it is really a big shame for muslim people. being a muslim girl i really felt slaped when i heard this news. is it like that muslims are losing faith in their religion.
I think, Ms. Nadia Nabi is absolutely right and I agree with her comments. I also think that this is a big sin for Muslim, which is given free of cost by West Country specially, USA, UK and other related country.
My message for all of the Muslims specially Pakistani that please leave all these things, from which our Allah feels angry with their peoples.
Thnaks!
I think that one should not jump to a conclusion at the very first reading of such a story. I know that homosexuality is a taboo in Islamic countries like Pakistan but we cannot ignore the fact that it is practiced by many people in Pakistan and prhaps in Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. The only difference is that homosexuals are out of closet in western countries whereas they stay in closet in eastern countries.
I personally do not beleive that homosexuality is a genetic disorder as claimed by some medical scientists. I think it is an adopted behavior and there are no homosexual tendencies inherent to human nature. People become homosexuals either for convenience or for profit, or for lack of females for sexual tryst.
It is my assertion that all news must be checked for authenticity and validity. An action albeit violent as suggested by many of the writers above (hanging or shooting etc)is un-Islamic and inapproppriate because you can not be judge without authentic evidence. Furthermore, it is the job of shria council or a court and not a blood thirsty mob.
Truly disturbing. But I think Pakistan will reap what it had sown. pakistanis should be ashamed for what they ended to be. They have allowed this kafir musharaf to rule them and send the country in the path of destruction. I am not Pakistani but a jew revert to Islam and I have read the history of Pakistan. I am ashamed to the deccadence and the complacency of pakistanis. you have truly disgraced the milions of Muslims who died to create pakistan, you have shamed the likes of Iqbal and Maududi.
Truly heartattack to me.I think so that Govt, should notice of this thing and kill them in a place like arena,that people see it and do’t even to think to do it.
i’m a muslim living in the UK n i am totally against gay marriages. i believe dat its a very unislamic act n its just sick 2 see these two GUYS getting married. the parents of the young boy must be punished too coz of selling their son. i had heard dat people sell their daughters 4 money but now im hearing people are selling their own sons. how pathetic and disgusting!!!
n i think dat these 2 should get punished by da pak government. a strict punishment
n da pak youth will grow up 2morrow 2 think dat its ok to be gay. we should put a stop 2 dis n act now
This is nothing new for Pakistan even though Pakistan is supposed to be a ‘pak’ muslim country .Homosexuality is very common in Pakistan and has been for decades..Its just a secret network and evry one knows that it happens but yet everyone turns a blind eye.
In my personal opinion i think that the only punishment that could be justified for homosexuals in Pakistan should be that of a execution or to be castrated in public. so that it sends clear warnings to other ‘puffters’who practice this degrading act.
If Pakistan authorities do not do anything then you will have more and more gays getting married and it will become a trend .
with reference to the ‘gay’ marriage ,this could have only happened if ‘people’ allowed this to happen.so as i mentioned before ‘they’ have all conspired or have facilitated into having a 40 year man marry a 16year old boy.
Pakistan is infested with corruption, fraud,and ‘zinaa’.
and if it was true that Pakistan was created on the grounds of becoming a muslim state then surly god will unleash calamaties such as earthquakes that took so many innocent lives away…
Homesexuality can be blamed but there are still more serious unheard ‘sins’ and crimes commited in Pakistan that we will most probably never hear of.There is clearly no fear from god.
Finaly there is no need of scientific research required to why the earthquake happened.
Its very simple ,no leaf rattles without the will of god,No cloud moves without the will of god .The earth had to move because it was the will of god.
Regards
Usman
How very sad that the Muslim world did not go through an
“age of reason” that discredited the utter nonsense of Christianity and led to the formation of secular society
in the west, with the freedom of the individual being greater than the authority of any religion. There is no hope of intellectual progress while society is dominated by primitive religion.
The ‘couple’ if you can call them that, should be thrown off a cliff. It is against everything Islam stands for and they are ruining the world we live in.
On top of that we have the audacity to question Allah and his decisions. We incur his wrath and then question it.
We are a sad and degenerate society.
I am a Christian and I understand that all of you come from an Islamic point of view. Nevertheless, I do believe that there are similar beliefs that we can work through.
Indisputable Fact #1:
Homosexuality is a result of BOTH nature and circumstances. In other words, it is possible to be born a homosexual with the tendency to be attracted towards the same sex, as it is possible to be changed into one. Scientists have experimented with organisms as simple as fruit flies and have observed that some fruit flies have the natural inclination to mate with the same sex and others, when altered by their experiments, would be turned into “homosexual” fruit flies. Most people choose to believe only one way is possible. But this is a conclusion that stems from ignorance. Either way, homosexuality is not the sin that should be condemned. The just God that I believe in hates lust, sexual immorality or destruction of the sacredness of the body and crimes that follow like prostitution, gang rape, adultery and others.
Indisputable Fact #2:
The fact that homosexuality existed and exists in every nation of this world through all of history and that conscientious, intellectual, and spiritual people are homosexual is a testament to the second indisputable fact that homosexuality is not a culturally generated sin but a pervasive and NATURAL phenomenon.
Indisputable Fact #3:
Ridan, you should be thrown off a cliff. That was a joke. But in all seriousness, if all wrongdoers were thrown off of cliffs, who would remain alive? Are you adding or detracting from this “sad and degenerate” society? Is your condemnation adding or detracting from this “sad and degenerate” society? If you are detracting, and I will add that I think you are, then you should think before you say things like “they should be thrown off a cliff.”
I am not shocked! We all know what is happening around us and what is the cause? Simply put, our attitude individualy to shy away from religion by making over-used excuse that Mulla’s have made Islam difficult to follow. Couldn’t we read Quran’s translation by ourselves? Who is asking us to follow west?
Unless and until, we would not try to understand the message of Allah told us by Holy Prophet (S.A.W), we will continue to take plungs in the river of “Educated Ignorance”!
well, in my perspective this and all of this sort of shits are FAKE and nothing else.Media just checking the pulse through all these issues that either muslims has some respect for thier own or not….
seriously,
pakistan? gay couple?
firstly, i find that it is disgusting, and those men should be ashamed of themselves. arent they muslim? no wonder why all these natural disasters are occuring…because the world is becoming a mess. 97% of pakistan is full of muslims. why are they allowing this? astaghfirullah! shame on those men, and their parents for letting them be gay. you have taken your seat in HELL! perish you homosexuals!
i just shamed to hear this news and it is shocked for every muslim in pakistan,because this is not fall in our religion .
i m not saying that i cant belive .because i saw this all in our society.i have a keen observation about this matter.and the current situation is really shame full for all of us(muslims).i cant understand that why we r following unISLAMIC trends.ALLAH honour as ASHRAF-UL-MAKHLOOQAT,i m really unable to understand why we r fond of loosing our honour which ALLAH gave us.anyhow this is a really very serious problem and our broad minded governmnt should take some effective and serious action .may ALLAH lead us to the right path(amin)
It is indeed an increasingly destructive and immoral incident which has done nothing except contributing to our previously distorting and decling image which we are yet struggling to cure and safeguard. Such nonhuman, self-erroding and blind practices should not be allowed to flourish under any guise in any country which claims to be a muslim state. A general stream of faithlessness has already set in motion in most countries of the world owing to the rising tide of unhindered materialism and person to person shifting brand of morality, which is consolidating and proffering backdrop for such acts unbecoming the dignity and faith of man. Our rulers better keep aside their enlightened moderation which perhaps is doing merely moderate enlightening and must take notice of this sort of negative acts via exercizing their full authority to discourage their repetition. Individual effort carries equal weight as state effort to spread awareness about the devastative nature of such animalistic and sans-consciousness practices. Though severe punishment and regrets are ordained to sprout through conscience of such people, if they are left with a spect of such thing, just a bit introspection is required keeping in view man’s true purpose in such a fleeting life. May benevolent and all-present God keep faith of all of us intact and bestow stability upon our country and guide us through this chaotic path of world.
I believe that Gay marriages are against the bible. Thus concluding that as a man of the bible- Bill Green says NO to gay marriages.
Intersting….how most of your so digusted by the topic. Whether it happened or not, what I fail to understand is whats so traumatic about it?
But I suppose its understandable since most Islamic socienties are still in cavage age mentality. Given that in Islamic societies even sex between a man and women is so concealed so what hope is there for same sex issues.
Well to shock you further I am a muslim and I am gay. The good thing is that I live in the US.
I grew up in pakistan and can remember being attracted to guys even at the age of 11, so you cant blame it on the US.
Its very simple, just like a man and a woman falls in love, so can a man with a man, and woman with a woman. Do act so suprised. It exist even in pakistan.
Heck it has exited forever, even in stone age afghan society. Go google “Halekina”. Although I dont completely agree with that tradition since a lot of it is child abuse. Sex should only be between to consenting adults. To give you my own account. I never decided one day that I should be gay. Whether its by nature or nurture I know I didnt chose my sexuality. No if you have a problem with it suck it up. Just like I dont have the right to ask who you should love and and marry. You dont have the right to ask me or even criticize. If you are so disgusted by it just dont do it yourself. And if you really think it is haram take it up with God, since he made me and million of us, the way I am.
To me as I understand God can never be so cruel. Its almost like if God were to give you thrist and then make it haram for you to drink water. It makes no sense.
More power to people who dare to be who they are. There are many people who live their lives without even remotely venturing into themselves to figure out who they are. Not all people are alike and it is a brave act for anyone to discover who they really are – be it religious, political or sexual orientation – and if the process of self-discovery leads one to realize what their sexual orienation is, there is or should be no problem. After all, we are here to discover ourselves and not merely to regurgiate what people expect us to do in order to maintain the status quo. I welcome diversity and I believe in tolerance. I wish others could do the same!
Dear NAV,
i am very sorry to break this to you but if you are gay you are NOT muslim!
(lets just get that part straight) maybe if you look in the Quran you will find that if you are a homosexual you will burn in hell, you claim to be muslim yet you dont follow Allah’s religion and think some-how, some-way God will forgive you and you will be in paradise for being gay and not listening to God.
And buy the wat god doesnt choose you to be gay, You choose it yourself and say its a mutual feeling.
unbeleivable. its true that theres is some homosex not in pakistan but all over the world but news about gay marriage in not only in pakistan but also in trible area. never can happend. its totally baseless news. how come it as celebrated; never. totally fulish and stupid news. i cant beleive it. if its true after many months no one could reached to gulties and couldnt kill then; how its possible. so its not ture news.
It is utter disgrace to blame two lovers for a tragedy that only happened cause of reasons unknown my humna kind. We believe what we hear, if people stop telling fibs of men that genuinely fell in love and congradulated their companionship and scared devotion with a matromony that neigther they nor their parents are ashamed of; i silhouette their generosity to open pathways for the discriminated and abandoned class of people that are deprived of natural habits of humans because they happen to be confident in who they are and what they want from life. I find it shamful on behalf of the ignorant nation that supports falsehood since the begining of a dream Qauid lay down for the Muslims. I say not it is permittable by religion, but religion-Islam does not openly discriminate such attitudes. Biological proofs have been discovered for the normality shown by homosexuality. I believe the inner voice that speaks to your senses, teasing the vibrating never pulses suggests it is nonetheless God who talks on behalf of our subconcious. The natural distruction has been inevitable for the lives of the people who suffered physically, emotionally, visually and relatively. It is magnificient to see our nation unite in such a manner. If we avoid pointing our blaming fingers to people that may or may not hold responsibilty to the choices of Allah, we might even consider the perchance of His message of the disarray of Muslim unity these days as eahc man fights for himself alone, each man feeds himslef alone. “Brotherhood,” for me is the reason God sent such a message. He has taught man which he knew not, its been a mistake for us to avoid the pestimism and focus on two innocents charged with the accusation of love! My point had i hope been delivered, though i try really hard to please both controversial parties!
i know your trying to stay on both sides Zehra Ali Khan, but whose side are you going to be in the hereafter?
you know homosexuality is wrong!
- Result
It’s a faslse story. A propaganda against this part of the world and humanity.
- Humanity
If u r human u wont like things like this if it happens in any part of the world and done by any one wheather muslim or non muslim.
- Laws
Laws are made for making up a society. If its a muslim law or a christian law or any law it has been made for the betterment of human. Whoever is not gonna follow it must be punished accordingly so that the same is not repeated or to decrease the crimes.
- Media
Any thing shown on media is not a fact. It might be a darama. So media wheather electronic or paper or forums or whatever is just a darama.
- Summary
Dont discuss it when u cant or u will make mistakes. Mistakes unforgivable.
salam 2 all muslim pakistane,i hear this news in cyprus
if this is true then till this time what is doing our prime minister sahb if he can,t give the punish in islamic country then who,s will give punish.may be i think no muslim live in khabeer(where 2donky do this job)if any muslim lives then he must be do some thıngs.
i live in bhimber azad kashmir may be due 2 this reason
earthquake is come.i pray to allah save my country from these ableess(shetaan) pplz.although ablees thınk before if he do this job.these r symbol of qayyamat. usman
Think first What are the reasons behind thi of course Too much freedom, Very far from religon, Possibly some of them having very bad experience with opposite sex, sign of Qiamat,
Well this is very good news for Pathans and sindhies.
i am not talking about all but majority of Pathans and Sindhies.
Sorry for this but it’s true. i have seen some very educated and professional like Dr.Advocates have this bad habit called Londay Bazee.
i am also Pathan.
as you see my surname.
Asalm aliakum
bismillah irahman nirheem
sab say phelay main yeah kahoon ga k yeah sab kuch jo hua hai is ko naheen hona chahea.
kyun k Allah hadh say guzer jany valoon ko kabhi passend naheen karta..
Allah sab ko hadait or samjh or hadait ata farmay..Ameen
god bell u all
OK,every one here is acting like madrasa folk. If they want to get married let them, they will face allah and be judged by him, none of you have the right to judge any one. It is none of your business and does not affect you in any way.
who says sire .agar log buray logon ko bura nahin kahen gay to buraey barhe gi .and ev one should know its our duty as a muslim ke agar koi ghalat kar raha ho to usey rokein it is inforced as an order by Allah .yani as Prophet Mohd (pbuh)said ke pehle hath se roko through force if u cant then through toungue still agar itna bhi nahin karsakte to apne dil main bura samjho.or ye iman ka kamzor tareen darja hai.
aslam o alikom every one
some people believe that earth quake was the reason of all those sins commited by the socciety. listen guys this is just the insult of all thos earth quake victoms and all those homeless people specially kids who are innocent and they havent done any sin yet, what a stupid and idiotic thoughts this is. somone has done this sin in afganistan and God has punnished 80000 people in azad kashmir and other areas of pakistan. I dont understand how is it related.
and please stop insulting thos 80000 dead people and all thos homeless people. if You people cant help others then please dont relate this insulting topic to the earth quake which is a natural disaster.
thanks a lot
This earthquake was triggered we are in the stage where countrys are finding new ways to use weather as weapons and i guarantee you america has that weapon keep watch for the quakes
after earth quake there are many problems in kashmir there are some groups called chura group (knife
group). people are afraid by this group. in kashmir different arreas bhimber seerla and arwall people even cant sleep at night but no help found by police and government.
islam is light for us and we are guided by its golden principles. we would never go with the logic of our own but the fixed principles.there is nothing like to excercise our own reason. gay in islam has no room at allll.they are misguided and
himayat
Himayat suggests that religious people are not allowed to think for themselves and that there is only one interpretation of the Koran.
How pathetic that other people are so concerned with the business of others! The worst thing is that there are actually those who consider themselves “human beings” and say that such a disaster as an earthquake has taken place and claimed the lives of so many innocents – simply because of the actions of two men. If the older man paid for the hand of the younger man, that is also pathetic. How disgusting that Pakistan still practices selling daughters to old men for money. What parent could show so little love as to sell a daughter and arrange a marriage to a man she doesn’t know, love, or want at all? This whole Muslim thing has gotten so out of control world-wide. Christians are completely insane too. Organized religion is so unorganized! It’s all about nothing but judgement of others. If someone has done anything wrong and you do believe in Allah, then trust that your god will deal with the guilty – all of the guilty – at some point. People are not God and they have no right to judge or punish. I have read from some “Muslim brothers and sisters” that these two men should have hot iron rods placed “somewhere” or that any respectful Muslim man should shoot the two of them. Does Allah really send you these insane messages telling you to harm others or to kill others? If so, hopefully your “Allah” will bring down his wrath upon you for I do not know any family or individual without fault. Hypocrites just hide what they do. Frankly, even if anyone is guilty, it is not the young man in this union. He was purchased by the older man and sold by his own parents. Of course, it is so common in Pakistan and the Middle East to sell human beings like livestock or the African slaves we used to keep here in the United States. I stumbled on this news/informational website and it isn’t worth it to try to reason with religious zealots, but I had to speak out. Persecution is a crime against humanity.
Yes,Gay we in the western world like gay – you be gay too – yes drink pepsi and be gay! bend over and drink pepsi !!
salam…most of the responses have suggested killing the two gay men in pakistan…but what i don’t understand is that why is it that we should kill the gay muslims in pakistan because it is an islamic state and not the ones in western countries…islam is islam everywhere in the world and a muslim is a muslim no matter what their race is, what their country is…there are plenty of gay and lesbian muslims in the western countries however we do not take alot notice of them just because they are living in a community where homosexuality is quite openly acceptable..
please dont get me wrong i personaly am strongly against homosexuality but i just think that we as human beings are noone to say what the punishment for the gay couples should be as we would have commited enough sins ourselves…Allah subhanatallah is the creator of all creatures and therefore the reward or punishment of their acts should be left for him to decide as wel…
please let me no if u disagree…
ohhhhhhhhhh my God. i shocked when i read this artical.what is happening. is Pakistan is a muslim state and if yes then where are son of Islam please anyone tell me complete address of these gay marriage kafars. i will kill them please please tell me address of these kafars. where is this universe going i shoure ofcourse near to qyamat. I want to share some of my comments that qyamat is compulsory and no daud to come the qyamat but muslims of Pakistan are sleeping ok carry on but don’t forget that when qyamat will come i will caught every person giayban who know the address of these gay marriage kaffars. I want to focus the attention of GOVT of Pakistan and specialy dectator Pervaiz Musharaf that come forrowed and wash your sins to kill these kafars
Well if you do have to kill.. then please kill the “kafar” who cheated me of 400 at the corner shop.. and the cab driver who charged me three times the ammount because he figured i was new to the city.. and ofcourse the man in our mohallah who beats his wife everynight because hes high on our national “faqeeree nasha”.. as in pot!! and please do kill the police man who stopped me the other day driving to abbottabad and wanted a bribe for nothing imaginative… and dont forget the teacher who never shows up for his class accept on pay day.. and the bloody doctors who mistreat and mismanage and are responsible for god knows how many deaths and misery…. and in the end slaughter the mullah who managed to incite haterd for the other sect which left seven dead..
kill ‘em all along with the fags!! after all we’re all “kafar” in someway or the other!! that would indeed be good material for the next cartoon scam!!
Good god! We’re human beings, not animals. We are not here to judge. Only Allah will decide the fate of all. As for now, I think the same punishment should exist for being caught with four witnesses for having gay or straight sex. Not that I even agree with that whole thing, but then again, who’s going to have four people sitting around while they get it on?
Also, more and more young Pakistanis are having sex (male-female). How can we say that’s better than having male-male or female-female sex? Why should adultery and fornication be more acceptable than homosexuality.
Personally, I’m all for sex. Have fun.
Larte Rahoo , hasil kuch bhi nahin hoga , yeh duniya hai , aur har insan aik dosray ka dushman hai ,aur yeh duniya aise he chalte rahe ge , bas apne app ko dekhoo , apne emal sedhee karoo aur bas aba farz poora karoo baqi sab kuch ALLAH dekh raha hai ke kia ho raha hai us duniya main aise log us duniya main tu kush reh sakite hai magar akhirat main Khuda un ko dekhee ga .
ohhhhhhhhhh my God. i shocked when i read this artical.
this step is totally against the islam. government ko in kay khalaaf +ve qadam uthana chaiya.agher meray control ma hota to main in ko public ma khara ker k zindaa jala deta.
well after all these views i must say to all those who dont even bother to take the responsibilities of thier sins . jab zameen per gunahoon ka booj zada ho jaye tu wo use ugaal deete hain . but do u hitnk that is these r the only sins of people of muzaffarabad bagh alai manshra n some other badly effected areas by earth quake . NO not at all it is chance for every one to walk on the rite path but still people r indulge in sins this earthquake may come to ur home some people said its really an old story alas ask to those people who suffered from this horrendous lose . i m one of the effectes . so i think i have best understanding of this matter to tell others .wat happen where i was wen and how earthquake came its really a story for others but facts for us we lose our homes frends families our city beautiful memories so how u people blame each other y u all think about ur self that is their any problem with u or u did some thing wrong .
i just want to say that after this world came in to being piz now its 2006 think that r YOU rite dont think about others coz ALLAH will ask by HIMself n u all know that he showed us the rite path ….
I strongly desist gayism.This is against the teachings of islam and also against the LAWS oF Nature.Healthy society is free of all such evils and our people should strengthen their bond with their religion.Just imagine the sufferings of the people of LEbanon and Palestine and Kashmir.They are being crushed and we busy in most sinister works.May Allah save us from His anger!
this appeared to be very disgusting kind of act which must be punished severely by the state. no doubt homosexuality is prevelant in pakistan specially in mianwali district and its adjoining areas administered by the tribes like tribal area, but the thing which has surprised me that people have become so bold that they have publically announced the gay marriage. for the moment who acvocate the gay marriage tell me in whose favour is this gay marriage the so called bride or so called groom. this indicates that our social fabrics are in taters and will continue to do so if we dont stop these type of evil acts.
these marriages have never been accepted as marriages in any religion like christianity Islam judaism and even in hinduism and sikhism.so y break the rules of Allah and religion
God bless all of us and the quake victims
Well yeah ! these are what we call DOUBLE STANDARDS..if a guy goes and have sex with a girl, people think he is a stud but if two men are in love, people think its wrong .. what the hell is wrong with people ? How many other things do you so-called muslim pakistanis follow when it comes 2 Islam .. I am a Muslim and I am gay and I am VERY happy with my boyfriend. There is nothing wrong with being gay and DO NOT bring islam in it because when it comes 2 Religion .. its a very personal matter.
well its my first time that im visiting this site.. and i was searching something for my project but when i was scrolling the page i saw a comment written on this topic.. i was really surprised that this kind of topics are being discussed here.. pakistan is made on the name of ISLAM but now very sadly i have to say that humare amaal hi aissey nahii keh hum khud ko muslim keh sakein.. i think the persons who are involve in such kind of activities should directly hanged infront of all peoples on a chowk.. so than no1 again will try to attempt it .. this is the only solution for these kinds of evils..
All righty, Pakistani, Muslim and gay is compatible !
Greetings to all Pakistani from Japan, love and kisses !
i thinks the couple should be punished severely..the best punishment should be that they must be killed..brutally..
they have tarnished the image of the whole community
I cant believe wats going on in the world these days its shocking. may allah save us from evil and from shaitaan as he can easily get into peoples minds and soul I hope that these two people died in the earthquake (astakfarullah)may allah help
i think this is somthing really bad islamic lwas doesnot allow this
this news is completly shocking and unbearable i don’t know wot is getting wrong with the muslim
to wot religion are the following islam is very peacful reigion it gives us alot of freedom but ppl are getting beyond the rules and regulationsgiven by ALLAH when THIS happens ALLAH BRINGS SUCH DISASTERS TO THAT NATION
AND THAT WOT HAPPENED IN PAKISTAN
Nice to see all the ‘brothers’ actually concerned with the topic. But what can I say???? This is Pakistan after all! What is it u say down Alum Rock… “Pakistan Zindabad, Pakistan Zindabad” ha ha — u idiots
Any person that reads this will discover that in moral terms its realy bad anyway, let alone the ceremnony taking place in an islamic country (by name). It’s a transaction, they were probably poor parents or/and he didnt really belong to them he was probably bought by his gardians or probably kidnapped, poor bloke may even be naive we dont even know teh full story. And then remember ure iether gay or ure a muslim, u either bleive in the quran or u dont/partly believe, the reason why u cant partly belive is cause ure contradicting ureself/quran. So brothers and sisters please dont worry about people like such – they are not muslims!….we have a thriving muxlim converts and people born into muslim families, w odnt need borders or countries to represent ourselves, we have the quran to represent us – the one who disobeys is not one of us – so dont grieve for kufars
its a very sadeening news. we pakistani should get back to religion…………………………or wait for more disasters.
aaaaahhhhhhhhh, thats good, thats really good, that a male married male, aaaa wait a second, may be they were trying to born some thing new, actully evey one want to do some thing new, so they also tried to do that. hummm they are good, they are good bullshit,
i dont know what a human want to show up, human destroyed every thing, the wolrd, the rules, even their own religon,
i pray to Allah, thats enough Qayamat must be soon, Inshallh, and that will be my happiest day. atleast i will be able to touch and feel the heaven first time that i never did it since i born.
i appriaciate you both guys, keep it it, and Qayamat will be soon.
I think people in Pakistan are too consumed with other peoples lives. If you are a good Muslim thats great. But dont play god!!! If you think someone has done something against Isalm let Allah deal with it. Those people will be punished in Qayamat. Other people do not have the right to interfere in their lives. All these people saying that they want to kill those two guys sound very unislamic to me. Mind your business and live your own life.
male married to male is that which is not allowed by MUSLIM religion. previous some of nations were punished due to same reason we should learn from them.
may be this was one of the reason of earth quik.
if we cannot do any thing ,atleast we should not encourage these people.
i have read one of above comment that it is not our matter WHY NOT?? we should not encourage these people .
we should help others not to bhi happen this IT IS ONE OF OUR buisness!!
It may sound unislamic for you to believe that killing the guys that perform such act….. but in islam people have to pay in this life aswell if they decide to live in a so called islamic society- one cannot mind their own business in such situation because this does lead to the contamination of the family social structure which does represent the whole of the community and society. It’s not as simple as mind our own bsiness as live your own life – untill when will u decide to do that? where are your boundries? just consent isn’t the right to a sexual relationships- would you extend your acceptance to a brother and sister sexual relationship if the consent is applied?
salam all!first of all i wud say that this kind of act shud not have taken place and most surprisingly in NWFP,im shocked & like a normal marriage ceremony.the pukhtoons are not acustomed to such unislamic acts and how could people attend such a ceremony.
i wud jst like to say that its because of the illetracy and conserved mindset of the people of the area that such a horrifying event took place.
OH ALLAH HAVE MERCY ON US ALL & SHOW US THE RIGHT PATH.
“AAMEEN”
This doesnt surprise me that there are gay people in pal..but the region where it happend surprised me…..i dont think they should be killed…just leave it on god and he will decide for them…Its totally wrong especially when they live in muslim country ..I hope god shows them the right way!
different people persive differently that why earthquake occures no one can say that he is perfect.i will only say that it is an exam from which whole nation is passing.relegious people think differently then the geologests
i can see here all typical pakistani answers.
if some one in his personal life by his own wish in his own personal home in the bedroom under the blancket he it having sex with a man insted of women then it is tottaly his business not yours.
i am sure here man who replied more then half are bi or gay as i am pakistani i know that very well and the women are just worried to loos a man. as woman want a man so they do not like them to have fun each other and men are trying to prove that they are not gay. that behaviour is very common.
be a realistic and think if you are having strain sex in your own bedroom and some gay men come and beat you and dreg you in street, insult you and in the end kill you, how would you feel. why you people are so homofobic? there are load of the things are going on wrong in pakistanmore worst like a chodry did a gang rape with a daughter of his mazara. daily rape news in news papper in sindh punjab infact whole country. what about killing after rape , what about child abuse, where you homofobic people are then? why you do not come forward? all those people are walking around in same muhallah after doing that all those people are doing by force then no one say any thing against them nothing hapens , they come out from police station very easily and see the other side of you people when two guys are doing something to enjoy togather then you people just get so angry, realy it seems like all of you are gay and lesbion and get jelious as you can not get chance and not that much brave to do so. just jelious people.
i wish you all go to hell
i believe that people in this day and age are allowed to make informed choices especialy when it comes to tehir sexuality. One needs to be mindful that a person does not choose who they fall in love with and although being a muslim i to am gay and question myself if what i am is sinful, but know deep down i cannot fall in love with a women for the sake of it. i believe if i was enetering a relationship with either a man or a woman this needs to be in the context of love and if you are not into women then it’s not fair on her or yourself. Therefore being gay is right for me although from a religious perspective i respect people’s opinion but would not be happy to be discriminated aginst.
i am amuslim female frm uk, the society i grewup in, beina gay isnt a big deal,howeva ,we see pak as a way out all da tyme, our parents finks if we go back home we can be gud ppl, we ll learn , things bou religion and culture, so m kinda disappointed,cos,pak, mean, pure, and clean,so it wud av been beta if it d to stayd tha way, howeva i do agree tha u can help who u fall, for. but how can a male fall for another male, its jus so aganst the nature, anyway each to their own, but, it wud be nyce f thing cud be change abit, peace!
It is another example of PURE MALE CHAUVINISM.
If two women had done this they would be battered and stoned to death, their relatives would have been beaten and sisters raped.
But these two were only asked to leave this area, perhaps out of protection.
So once again, the male domination reigns.
Nice. if i think not being a muslim then it is excellent because it is his wish and if he feel that he can live in this way happy then he did right.
and being a muslim he did very wrong because it is probibted in islam and great SIN. he should to do toba form Allah against his sin.
Thanks
to my view , no one is a gay by birth.and no one want to be gay .but from childhood this feeling develop inside person. i will say its not a fult of a person who is a gay . how one can get into girls if he dont have a mind for girls.its something inbuilt thing.wat i can understand by having scicritic treatement one can be limited but cant not changed himself totally.i have even observe many peoples who are now grandfathers but they are gays in pakistan . and they are gays from there childhood.and i know its a biggist sin in Islam.and its a personal matter for ever single. so should not be discussed.
I read the comments above the whole scenario.. and it looks so strange to me read the people’s opinion.. I m not a Pakistani.. neither i am a muslim… neither I am a gay.. but still it looks so frustrating when people come out with a view of killing somebody who is just a gay… Common guys grow up.. this has got nothing to do with religion .. its the fault of nature.. and we as a human being cant simply do anything about it.. just like the straight ones gets attracted towards females.. the homos get attracted to the same sex..what has islam got to do with it…
After reading the views of the people.. it looks like that it is a crime to be a muslim.. and it sounds so funny that people are so very willing to come out with opinion of killing the man themselves.. do you all have anything called ”Law and Order” in your country… when i read the news in your country… i always get surprised how do the people live in such an introvert society.. if you are so eager to kill a person from your own community.. i wonder what will happen to a gay from any other minority community…
It just gives an impression… that its simply is a curse to be a Pakistani…. because you people are still living in olden centuries.. and all of your opinion shows the reason.. why the crime rate is so high in your country….
Thank goodness i am not born in such a country and society..
Shocked !! I m very much shocked .. if this is a truth then they both must be killed.
The people of Prophet Lut(a.s) were cursed and punished for this. Not just a sin but very much than that ..
Is it really a psychological behaviour being a gay or lesbian?
What could be done to set it right? I am so worried about my
children now 18 and 10 (boys) as to how to make them aware of such
problems in the society. They live an urban lifestyle, but who will
tell them not to indulge in such acts? Shouldn’t government or media
take some steps and focus their attention on this issue, as already
many gay couples are living happily in cities according to reports.
i m 33 muslim for me its not a problem also gays have a sexsual
feelings and they needs a equal rights they r a pakistani citizens
its not a democretic system liberty is for alls citizens of the
pakistan?????????????????
Hmmm….just an observation after reading many of the comments posted here. Why is it that many muslims seem to be so intolerant of others, yet when they are the ones involved (example, wearing a hijab/niqab, drawing of Mohammad, etc), they are the first to scream DISCRIMINATION. I don’t see many posts from Muslims comdemning killing of Christians in Muslim majority countries. In many Muslim majority countries, it is even a crime to convert to Christianity (e.g. Malaysia, Saudi, Egypt, Afghanistan, etc), yet no uproar about that. God (or Allah) forbid, something that that would happen in a Christian majority country. Imagine what would happen if in a Christian majority country, it becomes a crime to convert to Islam….bet there would be an uproar!!
This is because Islam never forces any one to join it. Agreeing to
follow Islam comes with, along many benefits, two simple conditions
This is because Islam never forces any one to join it. Agreeing to
follow Islam comes with, along many benefits, two simple conditions
1. You need to abide by ALL teachings
2. Its a one way road. Think before you ink!
Even if I were not a (Proud) Muslim, these two conditions come
naturally to me!
Even if you follow gay stuff logically, time will tell you why it is
wrong (or might ALLAH guides you to His path of eternal success!).
My well wishes are with you.
i appose u joe
every body follows their prophets
and we do wht we r taught
according to our teachings it is a crime to convert to any other
religion or if any muslim girl marries any other guy
belonging to some other religion.
but it is a great deed if a muslim boy marries
a girl belonging from other religion. and it is a deed of great virtue
so we dont point out your religion so u also not plz.
From reading this article the man was 42 and the boy was 16.
This was not a marriage, but a sex trade. The parents were paid
money for their son. The family should be ashamed to sell their
son off like that.
Did any of religious parties, particularly Jamat-e-Islami has any comments to the incident or registered their views or protest to it in public? Mentioning Jamat-e-Islami as it was member of ruling coallation govt (MMA) and has the agenda of enforcing shariat.
@ JOE, true Islam has no place for forced following of religion
or forced conversion to Islam. People who do that, are bringing
bad name to the religion of piece i.e. Islam
“O My Lord!Help us to abstain from the wrongs.”
I dont think that after comitting such sin
one should be alive.these people are croocked by nature who are labled as
Muslims but actually worse than dogs.they shoyld be punished by Govt.
People do things that others may not like.
Yes, gay marriages goes against many religions.
But really, who are we to criticize? Just a bunch of imperfect humans.
Maybe its better to leave the judging to God.
Just saying…

Well firstly i must say that i am really dissapointed to hear that there was a gay marriage in a relegious country of Pakistan , Which is against law of nature and Islam, Well my comments and suggestions are to kill the gay couple and to punish the elders whom allowed them to get married. I say if this is an Islamic country then the government must take some serious action about this issue, and i think their punishment is nomore or less than “Death” . thanks alot.